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Mike Matchett: One of the things that I found interesting, you said, you know, just said that, you know, smaller and smaller people can have more and more effect, like smaller, smaller hacker. And you Scriptkitties you mentioned some other things. Uh, what what, uh, what does it take to create a botnet? What does it create? What does it take to to actually get one out there? Because we keep hearing, you know, these big stories about, hey, we took down this million user botnet and blah, blah, blah. It doesn't seem to have any effect. What does it take to build one? Omer Yoachimik: But so the let there's two avenues to this. Um, one avenue is, um, to well, let's let's break it down into the types of botnets. You can have an IoT based botnet that's built of, like, small devices, like, you know, cam smart cameras, for example. Um, and then you have a VM based botnet, virtual machine based botnet, which is what we're seeing more and, uh, virtual machines, very powerful, a lot of bandwidth, a lot of computational power. Um, IoT devices, very small. Um, low energy, low computation, low bandwidth. And so in the past, what we saw with botnets like Mirai, for example, um, this was a very famous botnet that we're still seeing attacks from, uh, from variants of it because the source code of it was, uh, leaked. Uh, and so, um, if if you want to create an IoT and I'm not encouraging anyone to do this because it is illegal, but, um, to form an IoT based botnet, you basically need to, um, create, uh, write malware that propagates and infects those devices, takes over them. And then you need a command and control server that gives them instructions. Um, then you can do the same thing with virtual machines. You'd probably need a few, uh, stolen credit cards, bogus accounts. Um, and, um, then you have yourself a VM based botnet.