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With cloud. Your data is locked in myth. Fact. What do you think? Well, isn't it funny? I mentioned sticky just before we get to the last one. Now, what do we mean by sticky? And what do we plan that? Yeah, it almost looked. Like I planned it, didn't it? Yeah. Um, what do we mean by sticky and what do we mean by lock in? I think so when I, when I say sticky, what I'm saying is that, um, potentially you may be keeping your, um, your backups and your, your data protection archives for, you know, some, some environments could keep them for years. Um, depends on the governance, sorry, the compliance requirements of your environment, where you may be required to keep things for an awful long time. And as a result, it's very difficult to get off one backup solution, because there are no tools that will take your data and migrate it to a new backup solution, usually without having to sort of rehydrate that data back into its original form. So people tend not to get off data protection solutions because they have a natural degree of lock in. So does a cloud have a degree of lock in? Well, yeah. All all solutions have lock in one way or another. So I don't think anything in the cloud is any worse than it would be if you were doing it on premises, to be fair. Okay. Yeah. And, um, I think I think the joke is, do you think you're not locked in anywhere else? You know, uh, it, you know, to be frank, it doesn't matter what solutions you're using. There's always some restrictions in terms of moving from one to the other, you know, as a as a backup vendor and having lived in the data protection space for. Well, too long. Uh, you know, that's always been one of the hardest things. It's like, well, I'm changing from this vendor to another vendor. Uh, you know, what do you know? Can I move all my backups with, uh, with me? It's like, well, there's no real good answer. Uh, but at least, you know, when you start looking at cloud, there certainly is a lot more avenue in terms of portability of that data. You know, you're not locked into a particular hardware. You're not locked into a particular platform necessarily. You're not locked into, you know, a particular, uh, storage array vendor or manufacturer or site or, you know, from, you know, physical, uh, restrictions, you know, so, yes, maybe all my data is in AWS, but it ain't that hard to get it back from there or to put it somewhere else where I need where I need it tomorrow or, you know, uh, so I think, uh, you'd be naive to think that there isn't lock in to some degree with anything that you're doing or, I think, a better way of framing it of, you know, there there aren't challenges in kind of transitioning between different platforms, uh, regardless of if it's, you know, a database platform, it's not like you can copy your SQL database into Oracle and it's going to work, uh, you know, so, you know, there's always going to be challenges with replatforming. But I think when you look at, uh, just, you know, the cloud options in general, that road is a lot smoother and gives you a lot more options in terms of where and how do I want that, recover that data to come back and be repatriated? Yeah. Here's here's one other thing to think about as well. So you know, think about um, on premises lock in, buying a solution that you may have to run for 10 or 15 years. Um, as you sort of highlighted indirectly, Matt, you're going to have to keep that hardware, potentially. You're going to have to keep that software. The vendor might not upgrade that software, but you still need to maintain it. So now you've potentially got an exposure every time you start that software up to recover. Alternatively, you ship your media to somebody else who does that for you, and then it becomes an expensive recovery point every time you want to get something back. So yeah, there are pluses and minuses in both sides of this. And it's it's going to be an issue whatever you do. But I do like the way you just described it in the sense that there's no hardware lock in, there's no software lock in, you know, this is a service you've got and it's a lock into a service is very different to a lock in to a software product.